Episode 089 – Super Moon II, the Sequel

Posted by Tony on June 23, 2013 in Show-mp3, Show-ogg |



MP3 format (for Freedom Haters!)
OGG format (for Freedom Lovers!)
Total Running Time: 1:46:50

Un-edited Live session – http://youtu.be/CyETGa4gGqY

Contact Us:

show (at) smlr.us or the Contact us page


Kernel News: Mat
Time: 13:05
Distro Talk: Tony
Time: 17:17
Mary Distro Review
Time: 41:05
Tech News:
Time: 53:30
Time: 1:18:20
Is it Alive? – Mary
Time: 1:25:53
Listener Feedback
Time: 1:31:15
Outtro Music
Time: 1:42:18


Tony Bemus, Mat Enders, and Mary Tomich
Sound bites by Mike Tanner

Kernel News: Mat

Time: 13:05

Release Candidate:
On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 11:04:27 HAST
Linus Torvalds released kernel 3.10-rc7
This what he had to say about it:
“So this is hopefully the last -rc in the series, and things have indeed be calming down finally, so assuming that trend continues, we’re all good.

Which means that we still want more testing and people hollering if there are any regressions etc.

rc7 contains a fairly mixed collection of fixes all over, with (as usual) drivers and some arch updates being most noticeable. This time we had media updates in particular.

But there’s also core fixes for things like fallout from the common cpu-idle routines and some timer accounting for the new full-NOHZ modes etc. So we have stuff all over, most of it happily fairly small.

Go test,”
–Linus Torvalds


Stable Updates:
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 03:28:27 BST
Ben Hutchings released kernel 3.2.47
With 93 files changed, 1024 lines inserted, and 306 lines deleted

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:21:02 PDT
Greg Kroah-Hartman release kernel 3.0.83
With 11 files changed, 56 lines inserted, and 18 lines deleted

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:29:14 PDT
Greg Kroah-Hartman release kernel 3.4.50
With 39 files changed, 478 lines inserted, and 195 lines deleted

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:31:00 PDT
Greg Kroah-Hartman release kernel 3.9.7
With 67 files changed, 738 lines inserted, and 505 lines deleted

Kernel Developer Quote:
Comes to us from Greg Kroah-Hartman:
“PS4 will be running FreeBSD 9? Interesting, nice to see they didn’t just try to roll their own OS again.

But Grub 2? That’s just crazy…”
–Greg Kroah-Hartman
What Greg is referring to is that the new Playstation 4 operating system is “Orbis OS”, which is a modified FreeBSD 9. Some of you may wonder why FreeBSD instead of Linux. Well I’ll tell you it all comes down to the license. The BSD license is much freer than the viral GPL.

Distro Talk: Tony

Time: 17:17


  • 6-18 – Bridge Linux 2013.06 – Arch-based Linux distribution available in four separate flavours (with Xfce, GNOME, KDE and LXDE desktops) and now also featuring Pacaur, a simple and powerful package management wrapper for Arch Linux packages
  • 6-18 – SolydXK 201306 – Linux distribution with Xfce (SolydX) or KDE (SolydK) based on Debian’s “testing” branch
  • 6-18 – Webconverer 20.0 – Debian-based distribution designed solely for Internet browsing and for using web-based applications
  • 6-19 – Linux Deepin 12.12 – Ubuntu-based desktop distribution featuring the Deepin desktop environment (based on GNOME Shell) and available in English and Chinese (simplified and traditional) variants
  • 6-19 – Caixa Mágica 20 – Ubuntu-based distribution with GNOME 3 optimised for home and office deployment and enhanced with various tweaks and extra software for use in Portugal
  • 6-20 – antiX 13.1 – lightweight Debian-based distribution designed for older and low-specification computers
  • 6-20 – Slackel KDE-4.10.4 “Live” – Slackware-based live DVD featuring the latest KDE desktop
  • 6-20 – ROSA 2012 R1 “Desktop Fresh LXDE” – “Desktop Fresh LXDE” edition, a lightweight Linux distribution for the desktop
  • 6-21 – IPFire 2.13 Core 69 – a new stable version of the project’s specialist Linux distribution for firewalls and routers
  • 6-22 – PCLinuxOS 2013.06 “LXDE”, “Full Monty” – “LXDE” edition
  • 6-22 – Calculate Linux 13.6 – Gentoo-based distribution for desktops (with KDE or Xfce), servers and media centres

Distro of the Week: Tony

  1. openSUSE – 1297
  2. Ubuntu – 1499
  3. PCLinuxOS – 1537
  4. Debian – 2176
  5. Mint – 2865

Mary Distro Review – Rosa Linux

Time: 41:05

The Install Process: I opted to install Rosa Linux on the entire disk. Rosa is a RPM-based distro, forked from Mandriva.

Install options that caught my attention: a) “advanced” option “disable UUID”; b) set root password; c) option to set shell. Available were bash, dash, sh.

I had not heard of Dash – Here is the Wikipedia definition of Dash

Debian Almquist shell (dash) is a POSIX-compliant Unix shell, much smaller than bash. It requires less disk space but is also less feature rich. dash is a direct descendant of the NetBSD version of the Almquist Shell (ash). It was ported to Linux by Herbert Xu in early 1997. It was renamed to dash in 2002.dash executes scripts faster than bash and depends on fewer libraries. It is believed to be more reliable in case of upgrade problems or disk failures.


Installed Environment

reboot – updates: a) first the updater; b) then the rest of the updates.
Expose-style desktop manager (Expo) – smooth transitions
By default Rosa Linux uses the Homerun (full screen) program launcher. However, you can easily install the default KDE 4 launcher or the classic launcher by adding the widget. Home run is nice to look at but I typically like my launcher compact.
StackFolder – A widget providing a quick view of the contents of a folder. (See link in KDE Korner)

Rosa Tasks – A taskbar that holds open programs. What eye-catching about it are the dashed bars on each end, very similar to how Mac does it.

Rosa 2 Safe is a feature that enables cloud-based storage and synchronization. The cloud service is 2 Safe.com, a Russian-based company, whose web site was cute, to say the least.

Rosa2Safe uses WebDAV which is already supported by a wide variety of applications. One caveat, however, Rosa2Safe is in beta testing, so they’re looking for feedback and comments regarding the service. On the sign-in page, there’s a checkbox to disable the kde wallet.


Updates did not require root password but installing from the Software Management system did.

Other interesting Programs:

ROMP – Rosa Media Player (based on Mplayer/SMPlayer) Rosa Labs removed the overkill portion to simplify their productand reduce overkill. I think they succeeded. It sports a clean interface.


Rosa Linux is a polished distro that merits your attention!


Tech News:

Time: 53:30

Mir Controversy continues

The Mir controversy between Ubuntu (Canonical), and the derivatives rages on. With 101 emails and counting as of the 19th on the ubuntu-devel mailing list, that all started with an email titled non-Unity flavours and Mir written by Jonathan Riddell
(https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-June/thread.html#37250) (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-June/037250.html).

PDP-11 Lives On In Nuclear Power Plants

It lives on, primarily as a robotic controller, in GE nuclear power plants. They plan for it to be a productive part of their plants until 2050. That’s another 37 years or 2 generations of programmers. Now that you have closed your mouth after it having fallen open. You can go to this vintage computer forum to see the post made by Chris Issel, who is in charge of talent acquisition at GE Canada. This is part of the job description:

“I would like to reach out to you to let you know about a fantastic opportunity in Peterborough Ontario Canada for a PDP-11 programmer. The role supports the nuclear industry who has committed to continue the use of PDP-11 until 2050!!”


Linux continues to rule supercomputers


MySQL mistake is a wake-up call on open source ownership


Prism Break

How Can Any Company Ever Trust Microsoft Again?


PC-BSD Status Update – the future


Use of Tor and e-mail crypto could increase chances that NSA keeps your data


KDE Korner



KDE 4.11 BUILD Chart



Five things you didn’t know Bash could do on Linux

Hell is Other People:

The Toolbox

Time: 1:18:20

Bash Keyboard Shortcuts

Here is the PDF

Is it Alive (or is it a bash)?

Time: 1:25:53

During this segment of the show, I challenge Mat and Tony to identify whether a Linux Distro is alive or dead? Every other week, I twist the concept and challenge Mat and Tony to decide if the named entity was a Linux distribution or something else.

This week is twist week and I challenge Mat and Tony to listen to a statement about a distro and name the distro from a list of four. During twist week, I typically give extra credit if Mat and Tony correctly guess whether the distro is alive or dead. Since all distros this week are alive, both Mat and Tony start with 5 points. The items for this week’s show are:

There is some concern over the developers ability to maintain the distribution long-term on a volunteer basis


MAT: Mageia
TONY: Slackware

Its resource-heavy desktop setup and graphical utilities are sometimes seen as “bloated and slow”


MAT: OpenSuse
TONY: Ubuntu

Lacks latest Linux technologies; occasionally the project fails to live up its promise to deliver timely security updates and new stable releases


MAT: Slackware
TONY: Slackware

Limited number of officially supported applications; conservative in terms of base package selection; complex upgrade procedure


MAT: Slackware
TONY: Slackware
VERDICT: Slackware

The alternative “community” editions don’t always include the latest features, the project does not issue security advisories


MAT: Mint

This distro has no out-of-the-box support for non-English languages; lacks release planning and security advisories.


MAT: Slackware
TONY: Mageia

Mat won by three points



Listener Feedback:

show (at) smlr.us or 313-626-9140
Time: 1:31:15

Linux Outlaws Mentions us: http://sixgun.org/linuxoutlaws/314

Outtro Music

Time: 1:42:18

Pain of life by Drunksouls

This content is published under the Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

Copyright © 2011-2023 Sunday Morning Linux Review All rights reserved.
This site is using the Desk Mess Mirrored theme, v2.5, from BuyNowShop.com.