Episode 036 – Father’s Day

Posted by Tony on June 17, 2012 in Show-mp3, Show-ogg |



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Total Running Time: 1:14:34


Kernel News: Mat
Time: 5:55
Distro Talk: Tony
Time: 9:18
Mary’s What’s on sda6
Time: 16:57
Tech News:
Time: 32:10
Is it Alive? – Mary
Time: 58:24
Listener Feedback
Time: 1:03:06
Outtro Music
Time: 1:10:14


Tony Bemus, Mat Enders, and Mary Tomich
Intro Sound bite by Mike Tanner

Kernel News: Mat

Time: 5:55

Release Candidate:
On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 17:59:39 PDT Linus Torvalds released kernel 3.5-rc3
This is what Linus had to say about it:

“The week started calm with just a few small pulls, with people apparently really trying to make my life easier during travels – thank you. But it kind of devolved at some point, and I think more than half the pull requests came in the last two days and they were bigger too. Oh well…
Go get it,
–Linus Torvalds


Stable Updates:
These updates are a week old because of our recording schedule making last weeks recording on Saturday morning.
On Sat, 9 Jun 2012 08:51:55 PDT Greg Kroah-Hartman released kernel 3.4.2
91 files changed, 669 files inserted, and 408 files deleted

On Sat, 9 Jun 2012 08:52:40 PDT Greg Kroah-Hartman released kernel 3.0.34
52 files changed, 374 files inserted, and 198 files deleted

Now back to the regular swing of things with these updates.
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 01:39:50 PDT Ben Hutchings released kernel 3.2.20
92 files changed, 607 files inserted, and 435 files deleted

Kernel Developer Quote:

This weeks quote comes from Linus himself.

“In other words, I do not see open source as some big goody-goody “let’s all sing kumbaya around the campfire and make the world a better place”. No, open source only really works if everybody is contributing for their own selfish reasons. ”
–Linus Torvalds

For another excellent quote from Linus watch the video of his Q&A at Alto University http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShbP3OpASA at about 49 minutes in.

Distro Talk: Tony

Time: 9:18


  • 6-09 – Sabayon Linux 9 – a Gentoo-based distribution for desktops and servers
  • 6-10 – SystemRescueCd 2.8.0 – a Gentoo-based live CD with specialist utilities for data rescue and disk management tasks, has been released.
  • 6-16 – Lightweight Portable Security 1.3.5 – a Linux live CD with a goal of allowing users to work on a computer without the risk of exposing their credentials and private data to malware
  • 6-17 – Tails 0.12 – a Debian-based live DVD project with the goal of enabling users to surf the Internet anonymously.

Distro of the Week: Tony

  1. Fedora – 1815
  2. LuninuX – 1834
  3. Ubuntu – 2534
  4. Mageia – 3194
  5. Mint – 5157

Mary’s What’s on sda6

Time: 16:57
Sabayon Linux 9 Review
Il dessert è meraviglioso, ma cosa succede con quel gnome…?

What’s not to like about a Linux distribution that derives its name from an Italian dessert made with egg yolks, sugar, and sweet wine. So, it was very easy for me to select this dessert distro, as I like to call it, for this week’s visit to sda6. If you’re a connoisseur of Italian sweets you’ve already guessed this week’s review topic: Sabayon Linux 9.0.

First the ingredients in 9.0:
3.4 ounces of Linux kernel
One cup of Gentoo-hardened profile
A healthy dose of a new package manager GUI – RIGO (more on that later)

Top it off with a choice of three flavors GNOME 3.2.3, KDE 4.8.3 and XFCE 4.10, and you have a tasty treat. I downloaded the Gnome version. Firing up this 1.7GB DVD was a pleasure, compared to a few of my recent testing systems. No problems with graphics or wireless…and the Sabayon desktop looked great.

The boot menu on the live DVD sports the regular entries plus an option to boot directly to the XBMC media center. Being the eye candy person I tend to be, I chose that option. (Remember those days when you had to tweak and tweak to get mythTV up and running. I don’t remember because I never tried it—but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express…just kidding. Within a very short time, I had a professional looking media center home page, courtesy of XBMC. But I was all dressed up with nowhere to go, since the only media I had on my laptop, were sound clips. But on to the install…

The Sabayon 9 installer follows the one-option-per-screen approach but it didn’t take too long and before I gazing at a Gnome 3 desktop. Automatically loaded was the module for my Intel 4965 wireless chip. The system knew I was using an Nvidia graphics adaptor and it installed the required stuff. This was too easy. There had to be a catch. Could Gnome be the catch? We’ll find out later

This release of Sabayon includes a “Gentoo Hardened” profile. for better securing the base system packages. According to the Gentoo wiki: The hardened profile allows for certain package management settings (masks, USE flags, etc) become default for your system. Will a Sabayon-hardened Linux kernel follow in a future release? Time will tell, but one is not available in this release.

Package Management – Sabayon Linux 9 introduces Rigo Application Browser which replaces Sulfur, the previous front-end for the Entropy package manager. I have never used Sulfur but according to my research, Sulfur had two primary knocks: it was slow and it smelled like rotten eggs…oh wait, wrong sulfur. Sorry! Actually, the take by some was difficulty of use. By the way, Entropy back-end handles binary packages. Portage, a compile-from-source package manager, continues to be available in Sabayon because of its connection to Gentoo.

So what is installed with Sabayon Linux 9.0?

Office: LibreOffice, Evolution for email, Thunderbird 12.01 is available in RIGO.
Graphics: Gimp 2.8 (gotta love that single-window mode), and the assorted basics like a PDF viewer, image viewer, and photo gallery, etc. (except I don’t need an etcetera here because that was it)
Games: Standard Fare for a Gnome system.
Internet: Chromium was the only browser pre-installed. However, Rigo contains Firefox 12.0 ready for install. Avahi SSH Server also is installed (Avahi allows you to plug into a network and instantly find printers to print to, files to look at and people to talk to.)

Sound & Video: all the typical Gnome applications. In addition, XBMC as noted earlier, is situated in this category.

System Tools: Standard fare-System Settings, Configuration Editor, Terminals, etc.

Other: an odd collection of applications, some of which could have gone to other categories. For example, Main Menu, the Gnome 3 menu editor—why not put that in System Tools or Accessories?
Also in Other were networking utilities, Rigo, Guake Preferences, and Déjà Dup. Seems to me that these might better go elsewhere. System Settings is here, too. I changed my mouse buttons.

Now it’s time to install some programs. As I mentioned earlier, RIGO Application Browser is the front-end for Entropy package manager. I decided to try RIGO for a spin…

Home base for the RIGO application browser. What are all those buttons for?

Let’s start by updating the system.

OK, the repositories have been updated, so what’s next? Oh, an update! And what’s the deal with the two notices?

Oh, I see! Information about applications or conditions.

So here are the two notices from the repository.

Selected Inkscape, which automatically pulled in the dependencies.

Install of Inkscape is underway.

Installing Inkscape took a little longer than I expected. And the numerous buttons and notices were a bit of a distraction but the humor included in the notices took a little edge off my confusion. Aside from these things, however, the groundwork has been laid for a nice little package manager front-end.

Now for the Gnome desktop…Although the Gnome desktop was rendered crisply and beautifully by Sabayon, I was disappointed by the lack of flexibility. There’s still a lot of work to be done before I’d consider this desktop for my working environment—in much the same way that I eschewed KDE 4.0 for KDE 3.5. I can recall how disappointed I was at what appeared to be a limited desktop.

The upper left corner is hot, so throwing your cursor up there will show you a dashboard of all open applications. This is quicker than clicking on Activities > Windows in the top panel. With each open window a bit more of panel space is consumed. It just seemed a little kludgey to me, but I am not a Gnome user and this is just my take on it.

At the bottom of the screen, there appears to be some kind of hidden panel or notification area that activates when the cursor hits the lower right-hand area. The System Updates icon appears and, in my case, advised me that my Saybayon system was up to date. Then what was the meaning of the “3” as an overlay? Perhaps it indicated the message count? It was not clear to me.

System Settings Tool– There was no apparent way to resize the settings window so I could see all options without scrolling. Nor was there a maximize window button. I dug a little further and found –in Advanced Settings—an option under Shell for “Arrangement of buttons on the titlebar.” Options were Close Only, Maximize and Close, Minimize and Close, and All. All was selected. I don’t mind scrolling but come on, Gnome people, what the heck!?

Configuration Editor—Mercifully I could resize this window but I managed to crash it when I selected one of the keys in the left panel. The editor simply shut down with no error message. They need better error trapping and handling. The configuration editor is not for newbies.

My impression of Sabayon overall was positive, marred only by the desktop that appears unfinished and not ready for prime-time. I give Sabayon Linux 3.5 out of 5 cups of coffee or as the Google lady said at the start of this review: The dessert is wonderful but what’s up with that gnome?

Tech News:

Time: 32:10
Torvalds And Dr. Yamanaka Share Millennium Prize

This is the first time that the bi-annual award will be shared with each receiving $752,000. When Linus first released the source code for Linux he used this statement to describe it “just a hobby, [it] won’t be big and professional”. Well mister Torvalds you were wrong, Linux has definitely become something big and professional.

Linus has remained the lead developer and decision maker for Linux ever since. There are thousands of active kernel developers out there but just one man who decides what is good enough to go into the Linux kernel. Estimates put the number of man years spent on the kernel at 73,000.

This is what Dr Ainomaija Haarla, president of Technology Academy Finland, had to say about the award:

“Linus Torvalds’s work has kept the web open for the pursuit of knowledge and the benefit of humanity – not simply for financial interests,”

Here is what Linus said about receiving the award:

“This recognition is particularly important to me, given that it’s given by the Technology Academy of Finland,”

“I’d also like to thank all the people I’ve worked with, who have helped make the project not only such a technical success, but have made it so fun and interesting.”

And Linus on working for the Linux Foundation instead of one of the companies using Linux:

“Hey, I’ve had job offers, but I’ve really tried to make it very clear to everybody that what I appreciate most is my neutral status, and it really turns out that I think all the companies involved with Linux really do prefer things that way too,”

he said.

“I seriously believe that even though the Linux kernel has become a big thing for a number of large companies, people really do appreciate how nice it is that I don’t work for any of them.”

SID Gets Juju

Clint Byrum, WebOps Developer on the Server Team at Canonical Ltd and Debian developer, has gotten Juju into SID.

Be aware that this is just the client. A lot of development would need to happen in order for Juju to actually spawn a distribution other than Ubuntu. This work would include the need support cloud-init, generate cloud-init enabled images, publish those images as AMIs, and much more. Canonical has stated that they will not be pursuing that kind of work for other distributions, because it requires an intimate knowledge of their build and image processes. Canonical is going to set up a wiki with the exact instructions on how to accomplish this. You can check the package out here. http://packages.debian.org/sid/juju

OpenRelief Project Announced

OpenRelief is a new project that combines open source software, open hardware, and a crowd sourced design. The idea for this project came out of last years Linuxcon Japan that was occurring at the same time as relief efforts from the earthquake/tsunami. The first prototype of the robot aircraft will be shown as part of the presentation at Linuxcon Japan.

Jim Zemlin, Executive Director of the Linux Foundation, had this to say:

“OpenRelief is an example of how Linux and open innovation enable new solutions to important problems, … Linux is providing a platform for OpenRelief to design technology that would have been science fiction a decade ago.”

The initial prototype cost less than $1000 created by developers in Japan, US, UK, NZ, and AU. It is truly a global effort. Development started a month after Linuxcon Japan, with construction of the protype beginning in January 2012.

Here is how project co-founder Shane Coughlan describes the project:

“OpenRelief’s goal is creating open, modular, information solutions for disaster relief, … These solutions can gather critical information for relief workers on the ground, helping to get the right aid the right places at the right time … When completed, the robot will be small enough to be launched from anywhere and smart enough to recognize roads, people and smoke, … It will use sensors to measure weather and radiation. The information it collects can then easily be shared with disaster management systems like Sahana Eden and Ushahidi.”

Sponsors, or individual financial contributions would be appreciated. You can find out more information and how to contribute on there website openrelief.org.

Patent May Bring End To Used Textbook Market

Joseph Henry Vogel PhD, is professor of economics at the University of Puerto Rico-Rio Piedras, has been granted a patent to keep students from sharing textbooks. Students sharing textbooks is as old as textbooks but Vogel aims to put a stop to it. His process would require students to by an online access code that grant them access to the textbook. If you do not obtain an access code you would automatically get a lower grade.

His plan is simple. As a requirement students would be reqired to participate in an Internet forum. This activity would count towards their final grade and without the participation their grade would be lower. His plan leaves room for students to still purchase used textbooks, however they would stil be required to purchase an access code at a reduced price.

RMS and I do not agree on much but when he nails he nails it. Who would have thought that when Richard Stallman penned the fiction “The Right to Read” it would become a reality.

Bitrig The New OpenBSD

The developers who forked OpenBSD, into Bitrig, claim they want more flexibility to try out new features. Since OpenBsd is a security based distribution the addition of new features is a rather lengthy process. The main goal of this project is to create a distro with a very small footprint for use in embedded devices. They are going to focus development on current architectures like i386, amd64, and ARM, along with small single board machines like BeagleBoard and PandaBoard. They are also replacing GCC with LLVM 3.1 compiler with the Clang front-end. They believe this will provide significant performance increases. The FreeBSD team announced the same move for their 10.0 distribution release. Some other new features are KVM support and journaling. There are also plans to replace the GPL licensed libstdc++ and libgcc.a libraries with libc++ and the compiler-rt runtime library. Just as an aside on their main page (https://www.bitrig.org/index.php?title=Main_Page) they reference Southfield, MI. I wonder if these guys are local I tried Googling to find out but my Google foo failed me. If you know let us know thanks.

Facebook’s Ringmark Goes Completely Open Source

Skype for Linux Hits Version 4.0 & Loses Beta

The Skype team have highlighted four main areas in which major improvements have been made, and they are:

  1. A unified view for all text chats, rather than separate windows for each.
  2. A brand new view for voice calls.
  3. Improved audio quality.
  4. Improved video quality as well as a wider range of supported cameras.

KDE 4.8.4 delay

KDE released June 8 but not available in repositories until days later. What’s up with that? When Chakra did not have the upgrade three days after it was released, I knew something was up. So after doing a little research, I noticed this message thread titled KDE SC 4.8.4 important problems.


A Second Beta Of KDE SC 4.9 Released on June 13
One a week after releasing KDE SC 4.9 beta, a second beta is now available with more fixes.

The focus of KDE SC 4.9 Beta 2 is on “fixing bugs and further polishing new and old functionality.”

You can read the announcement here:

and here:


If you’re a Kubuntu user, here is information about adding the repositories to test the beta release:

KDE’s Rekonq Browser Nears 1.0 w/ New Features
A “tech preview” of KDE’s Rekonq version 1.0 web-browser has been released.

The KDE Rekonq 1.0 web-browser release is quickly approaching with a number of features developed for this new KDE web-browser that’s been in heavy development for the past few years.

Features and improvements include bookmarks (e.g. syncing bookmarkswith Google and Opera. What happened to Firefox?) Adblock: let users decide with a single click what adblock subscriptions use and a new dialog to unblock/show blocked/hided elements. Faster loading of history pages, plus loads more.


Peazip 4.6 Released

Peazip 4.6 was released this week. You’ll recall that I mentioned this file archiver a couple of months ago. After I upgraded to 4.6, I had trouble running it and discovered a little tip for those experiencing problems running PeaZip compiled for Qt. Start it as: peazip -style=cleanlooks and it will open without incident.

Is it Alive?

Time: 58:24
Is It Alive (or is it Slackware …Debian…Red Hat…)?

During this segment of the show, I, Mary, challenge Mat and Tony to identify whether a Linux distribution is alive or dead? This week we twist the concept yet again when I challenge Mat and Tony to decide if the named Linux distribution is derived from Red Hat, Debian, or Slackware. The items for the June 17 show:

Berry Linux

Berry Linux is a lightweight, lightning-fast operating system with good design and usability. It can boot from the CD-ROM / USB drive / USB-HDD / HDD.


MAT: Debian
TONY: Red Hat


Big Iron meets Automation. Rebuilt from RHEL6 sources, removing the desktop and other non essential packages for server installations and fitted the whole distribution in a ~ 350MB ISO image.


MAT: Debian
TONY: Slackware


BOSS (Bharat Operating System Solutions) is a GNU/Linux distribution developed to benefit the usage of Free/Open Source Software throughout India


MAT: Debian
TONY: Debian

AUSTRUMI – Slackware (Alive)
AUSTRUMI is a bootable live CD Linux distribution. It is based on Slackware Linux. It was created and is currently being maintained by a group of programmers from Latvia


MAT: Slackware
TONY: Slackware

Molinux –

Molinux is an initiative of the Regional Government of Castilla-La Mancha en España.


MAT: Slackware
TONY: Red Hat

Mat: 2 (Loser) 🙂
Tony: 3

Listener Feedback

Time: 1:03:06
On Google+
Richard Osborne – Really enjoy the show, especially the news segments. Keep up the good work! Yes your show is really getting its own flow, Mary’s reviews and the games separate your show from the other podcasts around. Oh yeh, your laugh too …. 😛 jk… 

+thom dushane Thanks we do try to deliver a quality product and I will let Mary know that you enjoy the game (which was her idea) and her review segments.
Brian – Likes us and found us from HPR
Hans – Solus
Victor – IRC, Debian Testing
pagal – UEFI

Outtro Music

Time: 1:10:14
Super Exotic 60’s Beat by Juanitos

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  • That Dude says:

    Nice review of Sabayon. If you want a good laugh, open a terminal and type any command but misspell on purpose. Keep misspelling and the resulting response gets very funny.

  • That Dude says:

    NVIDIA PR Responds To Torvalds:

    I think its a BS response and for the most part a FU back at Linus.

    For Mary: The distros you test on your sd6 partition, do you use a common /home partition ? Does the config files of the distro in test conflict with Kubuntu install ? Basically whats your partition setup?

  • Mary says:

    Thanks for your question. I try to keep Kubuntu isolated from my other distros. I tried to use a common home directory a while back but, as you noted, it will screw up configuration files quickly. I had to reinstall Kubuntu. I decided not to mess with my production partitions.

    Here is the partition configuration for my desktop:

    sda1= Extended Partition ~ 70GB
    sda2=Kubuntu Root File System ~ 75GB
    sda3=Kubuntu Home ~150GB
    sda4=There is none – Not sure how that happened!
    sda5=Chakra (and Home) ~25GB
    sda 6= Varies by Week. Last week it was Sabayon. This week, I am looking at Zorin 3.5GB version, provided I can get a clean download. ~ 35GB
    sda7= swap ~10GB

    It was originally partitioned by Zareason (three: root, home, swap) but I redid it. I have tested Pear-KDE, Trisquel, Vector, Ubuntu 12-4, Extix, ComiceOS 4, Siduction, Hybryde, to name a few. I keep a SuperGrub disk handy!



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